Saturday, May 22, 2010

quick thoughts over the past 2 weeks

I am a direct speaker, but I a meandering writer, so anything I want to jot down, turns into a long blog post concept. That difficulty plus being too busy and learning about Biblical manuscript transmission for a presentation leaves me no time to blog over the past two weeks.

But there are things I want to write about sometime.

"Father knows best." It's not just an old television show, it's a way of life. When I am faced with temptation, will I trust my Father? Really, who knows better than Him? I desire to be merciful like He is. His grace and His love are so beyond my comprehension, but I want to resemble Him.

Haiti is on my mind. Tents will not suffice in a hurricane. Concrete block and concrete roofs are lousy for earthquakes but great in hurricanes. Hurricanes come almost every year. I admire this group's desire to turn the world's unused shipping containers into homes for Haitians. It would help if Haiti had good ports to off-load any donated containers. It would help if the Haitian/UN government would step out of the way and not tax every bit of aid coming in. I am also hopeful for these monolithic dome homes in Haiti. Concrete is not lacking within Haiti itself.

I read gay blogs and gay Christian blogs. Why? Because I need to get out of the echo chamber and hear other perspectives. However, even if every homosexual passage in the Bible can be explained away, there are still no positive arguments or examples from the Bible for gay marriage in the church. The only options positively affirmed in all of the Bible and by Jesus and the apostles are celibacy or heterosexual marriage. The Bible does not hide bad marriages by it's characters, King David's and Solomon's multiple wives and supplemental harems, but it does not endorse them. Abuse does not argue against proper use. I think my gay siblings in Christ need to trust that Father knows best.

I hate working by myself in silence. First, I wish I was reading. Then, I wish I had company. Then, I wish I had money to hire someone to do my work so I could use the time to read. Then I overanalyze myself. Then I realize I should be praying. Life is so busy, that I need to sieze those times of solitude to talk to my Father. Then I am glad I'm working by myself with time to talk to God.

I think every defense of my faith needs to start with the resurrection. Before addressing the problem of evil, before addressing predestination, before talking about manuscript transmission, before talking about felt needs, I want to know if you realize Jesus rose from the dead. I recently read an interesting article at the Huffington Post, written by a Jew, who refers to a Christ event. He is willing to admit that Jesus rose from the dead, but can't accept Luke and Paul's writings. He likes James, though. But if Jesus really rose from the dead, doesn't that change everything? If he didn't though, why did none of his friends recant the story upon threat of death? A man who escaped from his tomb and his death, and predicted it, and never died again, is someone worth listening too. If one can accept that truth, then we can trust Him with the answers to all the other stuff.

10 comments:

Rick Brentlinger said...

Would thoughtful people apply your logic against gay marriage to something like transportation?

There are no positive arguments or examples from the Bible for planes, trains, bikes and automobiles.

"The only options positively affirmed in all the Bible and by Jesus and the apostles are" on foot, afloat, riding a camel, ass (KJV) or horse, riding in a chariot.

Therefore driving a car, riding a train or a bicycle, flying in an airplane are not and never will be right because they are not affirmed in scripture and have no positive arguments or examples in the Bible.

Really now, is the silence of the Bible an intelligent way to make moral decisions - the Bible doesn't affirm it so it must be wrong?

John Umland said...

Hi Rick. I like your blog and added it to my reader.

I don't think Jesus or the apostles or God are opposed to technology. But sex isn't anything new. I think we can agree that God designed marriage a certain way, in part to demonstrate Christ's relationship to the church. But Christ and the church are different from each other, "hetero-", which a gay Christian marriage cannot reflect.
Perhaps, you could comment on my other posts on homosexuality, but I doubt there is anything new to you in those posts. It is how I work out my thoughts concerning my gay friends.
God is good
jpu

Rick Brentlinger said...

Hi John-

Thanks for the nice words about my blog.

It surprises me whenever I hear heterosexuals talk about marriage being a type of Christ's hetero relationship to the church.

The bride of Christ is not hetero as you stated, which with a bit of reflection, I would think is obvious.

Christs bride is made up of saved hetero men and women and saved gays and lesbians and saved bisexuals and saved transexuals.

The bride of Christ, which contains men, is supposed to marry Christ in heaven after which there will be a marriage supper.

Men who are part of Christs bride will be marrying a man, according to the Biblical typology.

Therefore, there is nothing about same sex marriage which breaks the type except in the minds of hetero Christians who haven't bothered to think about what they profess to believe.

John Umland said...

But the bride is a collective. Neither you nor I are marrying Christ individually. My point is that the church is different, hetero, from Jesus.
I was sorry to read of your father's passing away.
God is good
jpu

Rick Brentlinger said...

"My point is that the church is different, hetero, from Jesus." -John

Says who?

Are you saying Jesus was hetero or Jesus was not hetero?

Are you saying the church is hetero or the church is not hetero?

I must be missing the intent of your logic.

If you are basing your remarks on Complementarity theory, are you aware that comes from Plato, not the Bible?

I am thankful my Dad is in heaven, no longer old and worn out and frail. We sorry not as other who have no hope..."

John Umland said...

I'm not describing Jesus' or the church's sexual orientation. I'm saying Jesus and the church are not the same. The bride of Christ is unlike Christ. This is modeled in a hetero (different) marriage, but not in a home (same) marriage. In Ephesians, Paul says marriage between a husband and a wife is a model of Christ's relationship with his bride, the church.
God is good
jpu

Rick Brentlinger said...

John-

With all due respect, saying the bride of Christ is different than Christ smacks of sophistry.

The bride of Christ is composed of some females. In that respect it is different than Christ because He is male.

Yet the bride of Christ is also composed of some males. In that respect it is like Christ because He is male.

Since when do non-gay Christians get to decide that the area of difference you choose trumps the area of similarity gay Christians choose?

In my opinion, you are straining at a gnat while swallowing a camel.

John Umland said...

Rick
you crack me up.
God is good
jpu

Rick Brentlinger said...

"Rick
you crack me up."


Glad I can be helpful that way yet I had hoped this was a serious conversation.

John Umland said...

But I keep speaking about the collective and you keep referring to the individuals. I know you are smart, so I figure you are playing with me.
God is good
jpu