Ted Haggard round-up

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what a bummer, unless you are gay, then maybe this is good news to see the guy fall, although it is not yet public what indiscretions he is admitting to. how different things would be if he had confessed his sin before he was exposed...his downfall is so sadly familiar in the church. i pray he submits to God, His Word, his board and slowly work through a process of restoration...
the voicemails...

Jones turned over two voicemails to the station which had them analyzed by Richard Sanders, who it says is an expert voice analyst.

The first voice message, left on August 4 at 2:18 p.m., says:

"Hi Mike, this is Art. Hey, I was just calling to see if we could get any more. Either $100 or $200 supply. And I could pick it up really anytime I could get it tomorrow or we could wait till next week sometime and so I also wanted to get your address. I could send you some money for inventory but that's probably not working, so if you have it then go ahead and get what you can and I may buzz up there later today, but I doubt your schedule would allow that unless you have some in the house. Okay, I'll check in with you later. Thanks a lot, bye."

The second voice message, left on August 4 at 5:10 p.m., says:

"Hi Mike, this is Art, I am here in Denver and sorry that I missed you. But as I said, if you want to go ahead and get the stuff, then that would be great. And I'll get it sometime next week or the week after or whenever. I will call though you early next week to see what's most convenient for you. Okay? Thanks a lot, bye."

Here's the video of the newscast. Jones claims Art is referring to methamphetamine in the messages. The station reports that Haggert's middle name is Arthur.

here is a very interesting outsider's view of Haggard's church in 2005.

here are some theologically critical sites.

story summary at Get Religion

his church has a press release (PDF)

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