Scandal bloggers
some others who are blogging this..
Ben Witherington his angle is from a more denominational church with checks and balances that may not have allowed this...maybe, high profile Charismatics seem to have made terrific splashes...but if the tree falls in the forest, does anyone hear? meaning, are denominational pastors falling too, despite their organizational, denominational matrix, but with much lower profiles.
Ordinary Everyday Christian just the facts Ma'am
Get Religion which facts are you highlighting Ma'am?
I admit I'm hesitant to link to this last blog, because it condones Christian homosexuality, but I've been reading it for a long time, in order to keep my criticism of gay theology grounded in reality, not straw men. but this ex-ex-gay site sees through the mist pretty good.
Ben Witherington his angle is from a more denominational church with checks and balances that may not have allowed this...maybe, high profile Charismatics seem to have made terrific splashes...but if the tree falls in the forest, does anyone hear? meaning, are denominational pastors falling too, despite their organizational, denominational matrix, but with much lower profiles.
Ordinary Everyday Christian just the facts Ma'am
Get Religion which facts are you highlighting Ma'am?
I admit I'm hesitant to link to this last blog, because it condones Christian homosexuality, but I've been reading it for a long time, in order to keep my criticism of gay theology grounded in reality, not straw men. but this ex-ex-gay site sees through the mist pretty good.
Obviously it is too early to determine the accuracy of either man’s words. However, some aspects of Haggard’s story seem blatantly absurd.Btw, admitting to purchasing a hard street drug like Methamphetamine is risky in light of the legal ramifications...
Jones offers the kind of massage that is advertised on the internet along with escort services, not the kind of massage that is recommended by a reputable hotel. In order for Haggard to be believed about the limits of his contact with Jones, he will need to substantiate his story with testimony from hotel staff.
Also, the wording of Haggard’s telephone messages suggests that his drug acquisition was not a singular event. “Hey, I was just calling to see if we could get any more. Either $100 or $200 supply” does not sound like someone who has never tried the drug and is only curious.
Considering the glaring inaccuracies in Haggard’s version, it is likely that at least some of what Jones is claiming is true. It would appear from Haggard’s own taped words that he partook in drug usage and - as meth is a drug that lowers inhibitions and sharply spikes libido - it is difficult for me to believe that physical contact under the drug’s influence was limited to massage.
Colorado Revised Statutes:Schedule II Drugs
(e.g., cocaine, methamphetamine, methadone, opium, morphine)Possession, Class 4 Felony
Prison term 2 to 6 years and/or fine of $2,000 to $500,000Distribution, Sale, etc., Class 3 Felony
Prison term 4 to 12 years and/or fine of $3,000 to $750,000
Comments
1) most of these large churches are not part of denominations which have a connectional enough system to hold the individual church leadership accountable through peer leaders in other churches.
What kind of denominational 'accountability' and 'connectional enough system' is he thinking about? The Episcopal Church? A leader from a major Baptist denomination was defrocked recently as well for similar activities.
Seems to me that the large mega church acted quickly, decisely and correctly.
People can write whatever they want on teh internet, the hard thing is sticking with Haggard, his wife and his family from this point on. We'll probably be able to count those folks on one hand. Or less.